I think this would be a good idea all residents need to have a "trusted class" to be able to script.


"I am all for a "trusted resident" system for scripting. How ever I would hope that all clients that are as of right now in good standing will be classed as "trusted" Also people with payment info should have automatic "trusted" Class untill such time that they give (us) you (LL) to think otherwise." Quoted myself

I think it will ultimately just be too easy to hijack accounts, or gain 'trusted' status.

Of course it will help, but I'm sure there are enough hostile alts out there right now, to keep the hackers in the hacking business for a long long time.

The character of the grid attacks lately has been that of someone working diligently and intentionally to use every hole in the system they can find.

The people who would just casually consider attacking the grid are already stopped for the most part.

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So what determines if someone is trusted or not?

I think ultimately while this is a fairly decent solution to the problem at hand, it is a complete and utter mistake and quite a departure from the perfect universe of Phillip --where everyone is equal, on a level playing field.

So it seems that the rules of LL is that they will stay out of whatever they like to stay out of on the premise of equality and then completely disrupt equality when their own decisions open their grid to attacks.

I dont mean this all negatively. No it is coming across as such. I am just re-iterating what I am observing -- the logic as a programmer would see it. And the logic is starting to fall apart at the seams in terms of LL.

Also another interesting thing is, I have been in many discussions on the education list where I have been told that pretty much I have turned into an old fart in SL who resists change. I am horrified by this suggestion -- mostly not because of the old part, that's slowly coming, but the part about "becoming someone who resists change".

Could it be? Are we the old timers turning into grandfathers no one wants to talk to anymore? Has the revolution eaten its own children?

Troy

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Agreed. But your post made me think of something. If they told us that we are going to have to go through this stage of iterative hacking and fixing of the grid -- wouldnt we rather go through it now rather than later? I mean I guess there's no good time for all of this. Too bad it has to happen at our expense -- like it always does when LL is involved. :-)

Troy

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I find the entire idea of "trusted residents" somewhat suspect. What defines trusted? Is it credit card verification? RL address verification? Never being suspended?

I've been in SL since September 23, 2003. Have done my share of trailblazing and retired, and was suspended once, as have been other prominent members. Will my freedoms in SL be restricted under this new umbrella of "Trusted Residents"?

Briana Dawson

Here's a take on the "trusted" concept I posted at SC. Guaranteed to make some folk's hair stand on end:

Residents are allowed to form special Groups, the members of which are given access to the "dangerous" scripting calls in LSL. If a member of a particular Scripting Group is proven to have used scripting for griefing (or to assist others in griefing), that resident is punished normally by LL, and in addition all members of the Group have their scripting privileges revoked for a predetermined amount of time (30 days?).

Residents are only allowed to be a member of one Scripting Group at a time. If you want to leave one and join another, you will have to endure a (30 day?) probationary period where you will not be allowed to script during the transition.

Any verified resident may start a Scripting Group. Scripting Groups must have a minimum of (10?) officers and (30?) members. Only verified residents may be officers.

What? Is? THAT? Pol?

You are suggesting that there may be no individual scripters, that in order to script a shower I have to join some GROUP? Then hope everyone in it behaves, or I'll pay the price?

I can think of a lot of solutions to this problem, but none of them more Machiavellian than that.

Anyway, then the whole game would be to grief the group and get the group shut down.

Are you being funny or something? Sometimes I don't get jokes.

coco

Reread please. You would be required to join a group to use dangerous scripting calls.

Grief the Group? What are you talking about?

I'm talking about someone joining the group and then using one of the "dangerous calls" you say this would be limited to, in order to get everyone in trouble.

What are these dangerous calls?

And why would I not want to use them someday?

coco

P.S. On the Blawg thread about this - and I haven't read it all, just don't have time - there is someone who suggested that scripters who want to be unlimited submit an application to SL.

If these things you are talking about are just a couple of things, then seems to me like that would be a good idea.

Second Life is taking a road that mirrors first life here. In RL when a person or persons begins to abuse a priveledge the authorities follow with instituting restrictions.

Come to think of it, SL is a virtual platform. No more, no less. It is constituted of real people. Wow, SL isn't really SL now is it? It's just becoming a fuzzy and rather sad representation of who and what we are.

Humans....look how well we have done in RL.

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